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Post by GeorgeV » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:25 pm

Major CPU performance drop with 9.5.21 on my system
I had to rollback to .20 unfortunately
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by Matthias Quellmann » Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:36 pm

GeorgeV wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:25 pm
Major CPU performance drop with 9.5.21 on my system
I had to rollback to .20 unfortunately
Hi George,
Could you please give us some more details? How and in which situations do you experience a performance drop?

To all: Can anyone else confirm this change in 9.5.21?
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by Maincat » Fri Apr 13, 2018 1:57 pm

Matthias Quellmann wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:36 pm
GeorgeV wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:25 pm
Major CPU performance drop with 9.5.21 on my system
I had to rollback to .20 unfortunately
Hi George,
Could you please give us some more details? How and in which situations do you experience a performance drop?

To all: Can anyone else confirm his change in 9.5.21?
Unconfirmed here. All seems fine.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by beanstalk40 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 2:42 pm

Matthias Quellmann wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:36 pm
GeorgeV wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:25 pm
Major CPU performance drop with 9.5.21 on my system
I had to rollback to .20 unfortunately
Hi George,
Could you please give us some more details? How and in which situations do you experience a performance drop?

To all: Can anyone else confirm this change in 9.5.21?
Cpu usage unchanged here...
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by GeorgeV » Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:24 pm

Matthias Quellmann wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:36 pm
GeorgeV wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:25 pm
Major CPU performance drop with 9.5.21 on my system
I had to rollback to .20 unfortunately
Hi George,
Could you please give us some more details? How and in which situations do you experience a performance drop?

To all: Can anyone else confirm this change in 9.5.21?
Hey Matthias,

Thanks very much for your reply and interest.
I'm on win7 btw details of my system on sig

2 almost finished projects both ok on 9.5.20 with ASIO meter around 80% only a couple of dropouts on 1-2 very busy parts
both projects gave many dropouts on 9.5.21 with ASIO meter hitting red many times, same settings of course
After rolling back to 9.5.20 my system performs as before the latest update. Rollback made by uninstalling 9.5 and reinstalling with updates up to .20

Please note that I use the known workaround to increase FLS slots by removing unused dlls from Cubase9.5/Components folder (ie euconadapter, hubservice, omffilter, all video dlls and vstconnect)
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by Sun Park » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:08 pm

Hi!

Been trying to install both 9.5.20 and .21. Does not work, the installer breaks at the end...

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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by Maincat » Fri Apr 13, 2018 7:16 pm

Sun Park wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:08 pm
Hi!

Been trying to install both 9.5.20 and .21. Does not work, the installer breaks at the end...

Pelle
Please tell us which OS you use. That and other information about your equipment could be put in to your signature.

If you are using Windows, take a look at this post viewtopic.php?f=250&t=133774&start=100#p726695 It worked for me whan I couldn't install an update.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by hjwinge » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:41 pm

Cubase 9.5.21 is unfortunally by far the most unstable release I have ever used. Frequent crash (ie cubase just disappear) while editing vari audio, using/editing VST instruments, and the latest crash - on loading the audio files on a project made by 9.5.21. For the first time ever, I have audio dropouts on recording, plus frequent glitches while playbacking.

The Cubase 9 series have unfortunally been a mixed bag for me, I usually never experienced these kind of problems before, and I used cubase since version 1 on atari.

To my knowledge all third party plugins (that I use) are updated to latest version.

On my system .21 gave me more bugs than I had on .10. Hoping for a new bugfixing update soon.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by Romantique Tp » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:54 pm

hjwinge wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:41 pm
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These are almost definitely system specific issues and you should contact support. There would be a lot of people complaining in this thread if these were widespread issues.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by hjwinge » Tue Apr 17, 2018 1:35 pm

Romantique Tp wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:54 pm
hjwinge wrote:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:41 pm
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These are almost definitely system specific issues and you should contact support. There would be a lot of people complaining in this thread if these were widespread issues.
I know, I just «ventilated» my own frustrations at this point using 9.5.21 since these bugs are new to me. I dont have many other bugs in general.

The variaudio issue has been around since the beginning in C5, on my system I remember cubase crashed a lot while using variaudio, its been better since after updates and upgrades, but now its worse again.

I dont know what I can do about it on my part.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by silhouette » Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:41 pm

I'm beginning to thing this is the most problematic update yet for me. I have had multiple crashes in a project that I heretofore had none. Crashes opening GUI's or closing of plugins that have been stable. Multiple GUIs of the same plugin do it too. some channels have been losing sound for no apparent reason and Cubase has to be shut down and reopened to get the sound back. Just about to uninstall 21.

Edit: Well it wasn't that as it is still doing unspeakable things in twenty. Something must be going wrong elsewhere! Grrr I will try reverting to a previous version of the project. That has not changed things either. I can't understand what has happened to this project, as it has become unstable. I have frozen all my vsti's. I will be looking into the efx I have been using later. My other projects do not suffer from this.
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Post by sj1 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:29 pm

Glad I visited here and found out about Cubase 9.5.

I see no notice of it's arrival in my Steinberg Hub.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by subatomix1 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:17 am

Has anyone installed 9.5.21 and found that more plugins are blacklisted? No problem with 9.5.10, but with the latest CB update I had several blacklist issues, most notably the current version of NI Reaktor 6. Also Izotope Ozone 7. All 64 bit plugins. If you didn't have issues with those plugins and you're on a mac, what OS are you running? Curious if that has any impact on the issue.

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Post by orchetect » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:24 am

subatomix1 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:17 am
Has anyone installed 9.5.21 and found that more plugins are blacklisted? No problem with 9.5.10, but with the latest CB update I had several blacklist issues, most notably the current version of NI Reaktor 6. Also Izotope Ozone 7. All 64 bit plugins. If you didn't have issues with those plugins and you're on a mac, what OS are you running? Curious if that has any impact on the issue.

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Nope. I have the whole iZotope 7 suite and Komplete, all current versions. Nothing is blacklisted.
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Post by hjwinge » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:29 am

To follow up my own post regarding audio dropouts in .21, I found after some testing that deactivating the internal 64 bit prosessing will reduce the dropouts a lot. It still happen sometimes in 32b but I can live with it for now and hope for a fix.

I still have the CAN-12852 issue after the latest update.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by philipraath » Tue May 01, 2018 9:20 am

Hi everybody
Seeing as everybody else can get the update installed, I probably have a Windows or hardware error. Trying to install on Win7, i get the following error:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Setup.exe_Setup
Application Version: 3.4.1.241
Application Timestamp: 5a6082a3
Fault Module Name: KERNELBASE.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.24094
Fault Module Timestamp: 5abee68a
Exception Code: e0434352
Exception Offset: 000000000001a06d
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48

Any ideas will be appreciated
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Post by Ojustaboo » Fri May 04, 2018 8:56 am

philipraath wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 9:20 am
Hi everybody
Seeing as everybody else can get the update installed, I probably have a Windows or hardware error. Trying to install on Win7, i get the following error:
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Setup.exe_Setup
Application Version: 3.4.1.241
Application Timestamp: 5a6082a3
Fault Module Name: KERNELBASE.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.1.7601.24094
Fault Module Timestamp: 5abee68a
Exception Code: e0434352
Exception Offset: 000000000001a06d
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.48

Any ideas will be appreciated
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I presume you have enough disk space and have the latest win 7 updates?

I also presume your running the correct update for your version of Cubase (Pro, Artist or Elements)

Have you tried running the update as administrator

You could try the following, open a administrator command prompt
Not used windows 7 for a while, but I think the normal command prompt is in start/accessories, RIGHT click on it and select "Run as administrator"

Then in the command prompt window type: sfc /scannow

That will check all your system files (sfc = System File Checker) and replace them from a cached copy that windows keeps as a backup. Will probably take a long while, but should verify every things OK. At the end it will either tell you everything is fine, or give some other error message.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by philipraath » Fri May 04, 2018 1:04 pm

Thanks Ojustaboo

I've tried all that, as well as running the cubase95.msi as suggested in previous posts about the same problem but still no luck. I'll try the sfc /scannow and see what happens. I've moved back to Cubase 9.0 and ran the latest upgrade (.40) to see if it gives the same problem, but that one worked 100%. So it looks like I will be on 9.0 which seems to be a bit more reliable as well, especially on quantizing.

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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by BaseCu » Sat May 05, 2018 1:00 am

subatomix1 wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:17 am
Has anyone installed 9.5.21 and found that more plugins are blacklisted? No problem with 9.5.10, but with the latest CB update I had several blacklist issues, most notably the current version of NI Reaktor 6. Also Izotope Ozone 7. All 64 bit plugins. If you didn't have issues with those plugins and you're on a mac, what OS are you running? Curious if that has any impact on the issue.
Yes, Cableguys PanCake was fine in 9.5.20 but is now blacklisted in 9.5.21 (though I'm using a PC).

For me, 9.5.21 has the worst performance/stability of the entire C9 series.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by Ssigma » Sat May 05, 2018 6:14 pm

Lhotse wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:43 pm
Hi Steve,

I`m the one that you were trying to help in the 9.5.20 thread viewtopic.php?f=250&t=133774&start=125#p729452

Unfortunately I´ll just be able to try it this Monday, that`s why I was asking :|
Sun Park wrote:
Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:08 pm
Hi!

Been trying to install both 9.5.20 and .21. Does not work, the installer breaks at the end...

Pelle
I had the same problem (could update to 9.5.10 but not 9.5.20/9.5.21) on Windows 7 64-bit.

I installed Microsoft .NET Framework 4.7.2 and now the update works fine.

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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by GeorgeV » Sun May 06, 2018 10:33 am

BaseCu wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 1:00 am
For me, 9.5.21 has the worst performance/stability of the entire C9 series.
For me too BaseCu. I see we both use win7 with RME UCX.
Anyone on win7 and RME able to confirm this?
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Post by hjwinge » Sun May 06, 2018 1:29 pm

I dont feel any worse performance on 9.5.21, but the hole 9.5 series is far more unstable than earlier versions on my macpro system.
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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by folkfreak » Mon May 07, 2018 1:05 pm

I have a fireface ufx on win 7 and can NOT confirm this. its stable and has good performance here.
64 bit processing caused the console1 osd to crash several times, but for me that 64bit nonsense is a marketing gimmick anyway

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Re: Cubase 9.5.21 maintenance update available

Post by beerbong » Mon May 07, 2018 6:24 pm

Win10 (1803) and this update is the most solid ever, I think. I have had almost zero issues. No crash/hang on close, no running out of plugin slots.
The only issue I have seen is occasional (and rare) enabling/disabling tracks on certain projects, which is something might crash but after reload it's fine.

Actually, a small issue I have now (new to this version) is sometimes this 'Channel Settings' GUI fader (on the right) is now too wide. But it seems to go away after a bit (not sure yet).
https://image.ibb.co/bLrmuS/insertwide.jpg
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